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Saturday, November 26, 2005

The Emperor Has No Supporters

It seems the veil has been lifted. The President can no longer hide behind his September 11th bullhorn moment. It's hard to believe it lasted this long.

The NYT interviews Bush supporters from 2004:
Mr. Panici voted for President Bush in 2004, calling it "a vote for security." "Now that a year has passed, I haven't seen any improvement in Iraq," he said. "I don't feel that the world is a safer place."

"I think people put their faith in Bush, hoping he would do the right thing," said Stacey Rosen, 38, a stay-at-home mother in Boca Raton, Fla., who said she voted for Mr. Bush but was "totally disappointed" in him now. "Everybody cannot believe that there hasn't been one shred of evidence of W.M.D. I think it goes to show how they tell us what they want to tell us."

"We need to not be so stubborn," said Vicky Polka, 58, a retired school principal in Statesboro, Ga., who voted for Mr. Bush and described her support for him as "waning." "Something's not going right here. We need to resolve this. I hate to say it, but I think Iraq is going the way of Vietnam."

"A lot of problems tie back to some of Cheney's shenanigans," Ms. Martin said. "It just seems like he could have done better for vice president the second time around."
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The Political Pullout Begins Now

I can smell the bull from here.

From the LA Times:
In a departure from previous statements, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said this week that the training of Iraqi soldiers had advanced so far that the current number of U.S. troops in the country probably would not be needed much longer.

President Bush will give a major speech Wednesday at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Md., in which aides say he is expected to herald the improved readiness of Iraqi troops, which he has identified as the key condition for pulling out U.S. forces.

The administration's pivot on the issue comes as the White House is seeking to relieve enormous pressure by war opponents. The camp includes liberals, moderates and old-line conservatives who are uneasy with the costly and uncertain nation-building effort.
You've got admire the Bush administration's ability to "pivot" under the pressure. What happened to the stalwart stand against cutting and running? Wasn't Iraq going to fall into chaos if we even spoke about withdrawing troops? I wish I could say that this is more than just lip service to the political pressure of the day, but I fear it is just that. Who are the traitors now?

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Morning Fun - not so fun for Nick and Jessica

Saturday, Saturday, Saturday, the one day of the week The State lets its hair down. The one day we stoop low, but aim high, as we bring you the salacious gossip you have all been craving. Of course it's old news by now that the B-List Hollywood dream marriage of Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey is over, next thing you know Jennifer and Brad will be calling it quits. So here at The State we thought we would take a look back and see how it all began. Sit back, relax, and enjoy, it's time for Mourning Fun with the demise of Nick and Jessica.
"I don't need diamonds on my finger to show that I love my husband."
What will MTV do now without all that love?
America's favorite couple is back for a new season. Jessica Simpson and Nick Lachey have stolen the hearts of audiences everywhere and the success of the show has left people cheering for another season of Newlyweds. Watch as Jessica and Nick revel in superstardom, baring their most precious and private moments along the way. Don't miss the parties, the performing, the love, and of course, the "Jessica Moments" as Nick and Jess put their celebrity marriage on display in Newlyweds: Nick and Jessica.
If you are like us and still can't let go, let MTV take you back to your favorite Jessica Moments.

And remember, lawyers are expensive so please support Nick and Jessica. A DVD costs only nineteen dollars. It's the least you can do.

Serious Stuff, later.

Friday, November 25, 2005

Bombing People is Funny

Having trouble figuring out what's going on with the "Bush Wants to Bomb Al-Jazeera" story? Then go to Daily Dissent and watch the UK's Channel 4 break down the story.

The allegation is a serious one:
"It is a matter of deep concern for all of us in al Jazeera, and the Arab world and the media."
In America of course it is not:
The White House has said the allegation that Bush wanted to bomb Jazeera is "so outlandish" it does not merit a response.
But wait, if it is so outlandish how come this:
Britain, which is prosecuting a civil servant and a parliamentarian's aide for leaking the secret memo, refuses to comment on its contents.
But no, come on, it was all one big joke:
The paper quoted an unnamed government official suggesting Bush's threat was a joke but added another unidentified source saying the U.S. president was serious.
Ha, that's funny, let's bomb and kill some folks who don't report what we want them to. Georgie boy you are such a card.

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Brownie to the Rescue

This bit of news from our strange but true department:
Ex-Fema boss starts disaster firm
The man who lost his job as head of the US response to Hurricane Katrina has started up a new firm - dealing with disaster readiness.

Mr Brown said his experience could be used to demonstrate how firms and agencies can better prepare themselves for unseen problems, and how to react when they arise. (Emphasis added)
If this wasn't so crazy I think I would be insulted. These people are truly living in another reality.

Morning Fun with the Weekly World News

Here at The State we bring you the top news stories of the day, but we also believe in helping the little guy. In the end The State knows it's Main Street we are looking out for, not Wall Street. So sit back, relax, and learn something, it's Morning Fun, right now, with the Weekly World News.
Roswell, N.M.
•You're drunk a lot -- Aliens take advantage of boozers because they're used to forgetting huge blocks of time and some really embarrassing stuff, said Dr. Longneck. ETs appreciate drunks because they don't have to waste their memory- wiper ammunition, which is expensive. They pick up a lot of people stumbling out of bars.
•During an X-ray, your doctor discovers you are missing an internal organ you know you were born with -- "A lot of times aliens take out spleens, a lung, a kidney, an appendix so they can examine them closely," explained Dr. Longneck. Despite their advanced intellect, sometimes they simply forget to put them back.
•You suddenly discover you are missing a limb -- "You know you started out the day with two arms and two legs, and yet, when it's time to go to bed, one is missing," said Dr. Longneck. "This is an indication they have kept one of your limbs for dissection purposes."
•You cut yourself and your blood is green -- "This is when they've accidentally sucked out too much of your blood and had to give you a blood transfusion from their own blood bank," explained the expert.
If you have any of these signs or symptoms please contact The State immediately. We promise a full investigation.

Serious Stuff, later.

Thursday, November 24, 2005

Let's Talk About Oil

While the American media is caught up in the exit strategy debate for our forces in Iraq, and we should be glad that they are finally engaging in that debate, across the pond the Independent (UK) and the New Zealand Herald are looking behind the scenes.
Iraqis face the dire prospect of losing up to $200bn (£116bn) of the wealth of their country if an American-inspired plan to hand over development of its oil reserves to US and British multinationals comes into force next year. A report produced by American and British pressure groups warns Iraq will be caught in an "old colonial trap" if it allows foreign companies to take a share of its vast energy reserves. The report is certain to reawaken fears that the real purpose of the 2003 war on Iraq was to ensure its oil came under Western control.
The Iraqi government has announced plans to seek foreign investment to exploit its oil reserves after the general election, which will be held next month. Iraq has 115 billion barrels of proved oil reserves, the third largest in the world.
Louise Richards, chief executive of War on Want, said: "People have increasingly come to realise the Iraq war was about oil, profits and plunder. Despite claims from politicians that this is a conspiracy theory, our report gives detailed evidence to show Iraq's oil profits are well within the sights of the oil multinationals.
If only there was a way to track the oil money as it flows into the pockets of Bush, Cheney, Rice and company.

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Morning Fun with...Turkey?

The State loves Thanksgiving. Football, good food, family fun, what a great day. At my family dinner we like to play hide the dentures. The grand-folks just love it. And if the actual denture search wasn't fun enough, you should see the scramble for the Efferdent after the game. Last year little Joey put Grandpa's dentures in Tiger's litter box, boy was that a sight. But if that's not your idea of fun, The State offers you this: sit back, relax, and enjoy, it's Morning Fun, right now, with turkey fun facts.
Turkeys have heart attacks. When the Air Force was conducting test runs and breaking the sound barrier, fields of turkeys would drop dead.

Turkeys spend the night in trees. They fly to their roosts around sunset.

Turkeys fly to the ground at first light and feed until mid-morning. Feeding resumes in mid-afternoon.

A wild turkey has excellent vision and hearing. Their field of vision is about 270 degrees.

A spooked turkey can run at speeds up to 20 miles per hour. They can also burst into flight approaching speeds between 50-55 mph in a matter of seconds.

Turkeys can drown if they look up when it is raining.
Pictured: Me, in the turkey outfit, and Seymour. Seymour is the fire captain for The State's 3rd floor print room. Seymour would like to remind all of you that if you are going to fry your turkey today please have a fire extinguisher ready. It's no joke.

Here are some turkey fryer safety tips.

Thanks for the heads up Seymour.

Serious Stuff, later.

Wednesday, November 23, 2005

President Flip-Flopper

David Corn does an excellent job parsing the President's Veteran's Day speech, a speech that disgustingly contained more political posturing than honor for war veterans. Dubya is quote saying, "it's perfectly legitimate to criticize" the "decision [to go to war in Iraq] or the conduct of the war," then later in the same speech saying "These baseless attacks send the wrong signal to our troops and to an enemy that is questioning America's will."

Let me get this straight -- it's perfectly legitimate to criticize the conduct of the war, but those who do so are harming our troops and aiding the enemy? Is that what the Dubya is saying?

My favorite bit of Corn's analysis:

While it's perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that war began.

When was the last time Bush talked about how the war began--that is, when did he mention that his primary reason for war (protecting the American public from the supposed WMD threat posed by Saddam Hussein) was discredited by reality? Is ignoring history the same as rewriting it?

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Wanted: Press That Speaks Truth to Power

If anyone can change the way the media does business in this country it's Craig. This from Editor & Publisher:
Craigslist Founder Slams U.S. Press, Hints at New Online News Project
NEW YORK - Saying U.S. newspapers "are afraid to talk truth to power," Craigslist founder Craig Newmark hinted that he's about to launch a major online journalism project within the next few months that will copy the successful "wisdom of the masses" approach to classified advertising and apply it to journalism.
When talk turned to the problems plaguing the U.S. news industry, Newmark let fly: "The big issue in the U.S. is that newspapers are afraid to talk truth to power," the Guardian quoted him as saying. "The White House press corps don't speak the truth to power -- they are frightened to lose access they don't have anyway. ... The American public has lost a lot of trust in conventional newspaper mechanisms. Mechanisms are now being developed online to correct that."

Newmark also said coverage of the Iraq war and the press' involvement in the Valerie Plame case had damaged American journalism.
Wise words from the little classified section that could.

God Woodward

Because, you know, just because a Grand Jury was empaneled to investigate which member(s) of the Bush Administration were involved in the treasonous leak of the identity of a covert CIA agent, that doesn't mean God Woodward needs to come forward with what he knows. Sheesh. You people are so demanding.

Morning Fun with Billy Bob

It's Friday everyone! And you know what that means: it's movie review day! Wait... check that, The State has been informed that it is only Wednesday and that Hollywood releases movies early because of the holiday weekend. Jeeze, next thing you know the workers will have the next few days off. Either way sit back, relax, and enjoy, it's time for Morning Fun, right now, at the movies.

Let's begin with The Ice Harvest. Harold Ramis is the director. Billy Bob and the wonderfully liberal John Cusack are the stars. Now this is a movie with potential. Well, maybe not so much:
Crammed with barflies, strippers and assorted reprobates, "The Ice Harvest" easily takes the honors as this holiday season's biggest and dirtiest lump of coal.
Who wants barflies, strippers and assorted reprobates on a holiday weekend anyway? The State believes in family values and we are glad to see that Hollywood does too. The State knows you can't have too many movies about a whole lot of kids under one roof causing mischief and mayhem, can you now?
The kiddie wars have commenced. The popularity of "Cheaper by the Dozen" two years ago has sparked the resuscitation of a rival litter of cute-as-a-button rugrats wreaking havoc in the lives of two caring parents. "Yours, Mine & Ours," a remake of the 1968 comedy starring Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda, ratchets up the juvenile population from a dozen to 18, enough to fill a medium-size school bus.
But Yours, Mine & Ours is still a good movie, right?
To describe the film as so squeaky clean that it makes the Baker family of "Cheaper by the Dozen" look like the Sopranos would be a gross exaggeration. But "Yours, Mine & Ours" is so snug, airtight and insulated from reality that the nice, well-scrubbed "Cheaper by the Dozen" seems almost rambunctious by comparison.

Honorable mention: Go see Syriana.

Serious Stuff, later.

Iraq and the 'L' Word

Richard Cohen shredded Dubyah without laying a hand on him on the Op-Ed page of yesterday's Washington Post:
Along with such creations as American POWs still being held in Vietnam and the Bill Clinton drug-smuggling operation at a remote Arkansas air strip, the unhinged right wing has now invented the myth that Democratic members of Congress have called President Bush "a liar" about Iraq. An extensive computer search by myself and a Post researcher can come up with no such accusation. That's prudent. After all, it's not clear if Bush lied about Iraq or was merely the "useful idiot" of those who did.

The restraint of responsible war critics has been remarkable. Despite a recent headline on the Wall Street Journal's editorial page -- "What If People Start Believing That 'Bush Lied'?" -- the "L" word has been prudently withheld by elected Democrats. But you would think that Bush himself would wonder about how he's gotten to this place where he looks like such a fool: wrong on the biggest issue of his presidency. He went out there and told the American people things that were not true. Does that mean he lied? Maybe not. Maybe he was just repeating the lies of others.
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While at, Mark Morford satirizes the same idea in the context of Thanksgiving 2005 at the White House:
George Jr. is perturbed. He is sulky and pouty and has to force a smirky grin at the guests as they enter the banquet room, pretending as if he really wanted them all there, all these betrayers and backstabbers and people he thought he knew but who turn out, instead, to be involved in whole big bunches of illegal and traitorous stuff he has no clue about. They are all a bunch of goddamn boogerheads, he thinks.
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Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Worse Than Watergate

Incompetence or intent? You decide.

The inclusion of the infamous sixteen words about African Uranium in the 2003 State of the Union Address showed the Bush Administration presents known falsehoods as fact.

The Downing Street memo described BushCo's decision to invade Iraq long pre-dated the "Saddam must disarm or face consequences" smokescreen.

One of Bush's cronies, "You're doing a heckuva job" Brownie, gets in over his head, much suffering ensues on the Gulf Coast, Bush follows this by nominating his personal lawyer/cheerleader to the Supreme Court, yet cronyism continues to run rampant.

Last week the LA Times exposed in meticulous, gory detail the story of Iraqi defector/informant "Curveball" who fed the CIA what Cheney wanted to hear: he claimed knowledge of Saddam's chemical and biological weapons. Sadly, this was untrue, his story was concocted for personal gain, as the CIA was told by it's German the time!

Ahmed Chalabi was paid millions by the Defense Department to provide false information about Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction, is still under investigation for sharing classified information about code-breaking with Iran, yet just this month was granted audience by Vice President Tricky Dick Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld (who stands to profit hugely from the Avian Flu scare, by the way), Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Stephen Hadley, President Bush's national security adviser, and other ranking members of the Bush Administration.

In 1974 Jonathan Schell wrote:
"[T]he distortions in the conduct of the presidency which deformed national politics in the Vietnam years -- the isolation from reality, the rage against political opposition, the hunger for unconstitutional power, the conspiratorial mindedness, the bent for repressive action."
When will we stop crucifying the "bad apples" and start investigating the puppeteers pulling the strings? When will we open our eyes to what the world already knows -- just how dangerous these maniacal incompetents are -- and strip them of their immense power?

The second article of impeachment against (not-nearly-as-tricky-as-our Tricky Dick) Nixon concerned distortions of presidential power in the name of national security, including the use the CIA and FBI to violate civil rights for political purposes. As Watergate reporter Judith Colburn asks in the piece excerpted below, "The facts may be different, but do the charges themselves sound familiar?" She also connects some dots from Watergate to Iran-Contra to today, showing us where Iraqgate is likely headed: presidential pardons, at best.
John Dean was indeed right. The Bush Administration's excesses are "worse than Watergate," in part because the power that has congealed in presidential hands is much greater than Nixon's imperial presidency held in the early 1970s. As a result, its zealotry, secrecy, deceit, and abuses of power are more akin to the secret bombing of Cambodia or the Iran-Contra affair -- scandals which did not unseat presidents -- than Watergate itself. In both the bombing of Cambodia and Iran-Contragate, a power-hungry White House kept secret foreign policies that it knew neither Congress, the courts, nor the public would be likely to approve -- even though Americans have traditionally been only too eager to give the White House a blank check on national security. No one was indicted for the secret bombing of Cambodia. In Iran-Contragate, eleven top administration officials, including two national security advisers and an undersecretary of state were finally convicted, but the first President George Bush rushed to pardon four of them as well as Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger (even before he could be indicted). The specter of this resolution of the Libby case recently prompted Democrats and then a group of CIA officials -- to little media attention -- to write the President demanding that he go on record indicating there will be no pardons in the Plame affair. They received no reply.
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Morning Fun with Chicken Hawk Cheney

The State has two words for you this Tuesday Morning: short week! Hold on, the turkey is right around the corner. Sit back, relax, and enjoy, Morning Fun, right now, with Ben Sargent:

Serious Stuff, later.

Send John Murtha A Thank You Note

Send John Murtha a thank you note to let him know you appreciate that he is speaking out about Iraq, and for calmly and effectively handling the Bush Administration's dirty Swift Boat tactics. Click here. Thank you.

Monday, November 21, 2005

All Roads Lead to DeLay

Former Aide to DeLay Pleads Guilty in Conspiracy Case
WASHINGTON, Nov. 21 - Michael Scanlon, former aide to a powerful congressman and onetime partner of a wealthy lobbyist, pleaded guilty today to a federal conspiracy charge as part of a deal in which he agreed to cooperate with an investigation into possible wrongdoing by some lawmakers.


Until recently, Mr. Scanlon occupied a powerful - and lucrative - position at the intersection of political power and lobbying influence. For several years, he worked as a top aide to Representative Tom DeLay of Texas, the Republican majority leader. He left Mr. DeLay's office in 2000 to become an associate of Jack Abramoff, a Republican lobbyist.
From Scanlon to Abramoff to DeLay: follow the yellow brick road. Even the wizard would be proud.

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Why Am I Watching a Plane Land?

Cable News Sucks.

'Gossip' Built Case For Iraq War

The mainstream media finally searches for questions about why we were rushed into the illegal Iraq invasion, hysterical Right Wing propogandists go into "muddy the argument" mode. Americans awaken to the truth, Bush Administration calls them traitors. The gov't thinks that a majority of the American people are traitors -- imagine that! Decorated war veteran says the war was a mistake, admits he made a mistake voting for the war and calls for troop redeployment, freshman Republican Representative infers the man is a coward before the House. When will this end? From the Independent (UK):
White House used 'gossip' to build case for war
By Rupert Cornwell in Washington, Published: 21 November 2005
The controversy in America over pre-war intelligence has intensified, with revelations that the Bush administration exaggerated the claims of a key source on Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, despite repeated warnings before the invasion that his information was at best dubious, if not downright wrong.

The disclosure, in The Los Angeles Times, came after a week of vitriolic debate on Iraq, amid growing demands for a speedy withdrawal of US troops and tirades from Bush spokesmen who all but branded as a traitor anyone who suggested that intelligence was deliberately skewed to make the case for war.

Yesterday Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, joined the fray, saying that talk of manipulation of intelligence "does great disservice to the country".

In Beijing, President George Bush said that a speedy pullout was "a recipe for disaster" - but the proportion of Americans wanting precisely that (52 per cent according to a new poll) is now higher than wanted similar action in 1970, at the height of the Vietnam war.

The senior BND officer who supervised Curveball's case said he was aghast when he watched Mr Powell overstate Curveball's case. "We were shocked," he said. "We had always told them it was not proven ... It was not hard intelligence."

The Iraqi, it now is clear, told his story to bolster his quest for a German residence visa. According to BND officials, he was psychologically unstable.

The debacle became complete when American investigators, sent after the invasion to find evidence of the WMDs, instead discovered Curveball's personnel file in Baghdad. It showed he had been a low-level trainee engineer, not a project chief or site manager, as the CIA had insisted. Moreover he had been dismissed in 1995 - just when he claimed to have begun work on bio-warfare trucks.

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Bush Comes Home Empty Handed

From The State mail bag:
by Jerry

Does everyone remember how much political clout Clinton had when he went to China? They would almost always make some gesture by releasing some political prisoner, or doing something positive related to human rights, just before he arrived.

Contrast that with Bush's trip to China. He's obviously lost any kind of useful clout, at least in the eyes of the Chinese. In fact, just the opposite has happened. The Chinese are acting IN REVERSE to how they acted with visits by Clinton, as if to say, "We know you're weak, we know we're strong, we know you need our money, and we know you will do nothing about this because you have neither the political clout, nor the political bandwidth to do ANYTHING about this dissident CRACKDOWN we're conducting right before your weak ass arrives. Besides, you TORTURE PEOPLE [at least 24 have died in captivity because of it so far], so you have no moral ground to stand on."

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Morning Fun with The Onion

Don't think of it as Monday, think of it as a chance to get away from your household responsibilities for a few hours. Remember you don't have to change diapers at work. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride, it's time for Morning Fun, right now, with The Onion:
Long-Awaited Beer With Bush Really Awkward, Voter Reports
WARREN, PA—Although respondents to a Pew poll taken prior to the 2004 presidential election characterized Bush as "the candidate they'd most like to sit down and have a beer with," Chris Reinard lived the hypothetical scenario Sunday afternoon, and characterized it as "really uncomfortable and awkward."

Bush asked Reinard if he had any hobbies, and Reinard told the president that he enjoys spending weekends with his children on local lakes in his small aluminum boat.

"Mr. Bush, I mean George, seemed to like that, and I felt that we finally made a connection," Reinard said. "But then he started telling me about this one time he was on a yacht with some Arab prince and they spent four hours landing a sailfish."

Serious Stuff, later.

Sunday, November 20, 2005

The State Thanks You

It was a great week here at The State and we would like to thank everyone involved in making us the fastest-growing political blog on the web. The State's expanding readership would not have been possible if it wasn't for Mike at Crooks & Liars for including us in his Thursday Blog Round-up. Thank you, Mike.

Next, thank you to all of our readers who took the time to vote for their favorite State post. The new "Best of the State" sidebar is now up and ready for your enjoyment. Your positive feedback has kept the staff here at The State going with a smile on our faces and a skip in our step.

And finally, a big thank you to to our favorite sponsor Dominic's Pizzeria for providing the pizza for The State's weekly Pizza Party. The staff loved the pizza, especially the birthday pizza you made for Grace. I think she shed a tear. Be sure to visit Dominic's on West End Avenue. You've tried the rest and Dominic's is certainly the best.

Thank you,
Creature, Editor-in-Chief

Pictured: Employee of the Week, Kate Henry. Kate works in The State's editorial department and is responsible for correcting all those pesky spelling errors. For being chosen this week Kate will receive dinner for two at the Texas Roadhouse. Keep up the great work Kate and don't forget to try the cornbread.

It's the Politics, Stupid

The Washington Post today has a long article on the reconstruction of Afghanistan. Let's just say it is not going too well. While the failure to live up to expectations and win the hearts and minds of the Afghan people is a tragedy in and of itself, the article points out what is really at the crux of the Bush administration's failures in Afghanistan and elsewhere.
"It was a political timeline," said Perry, who left Berger in 2004. "That has created all of the problems."

A Berger spokesman did not dispute Perry's account. In his memo, USAID's Fine confirmed that there was "intense pressure to get work underway immediately and to deliver finished schools prior to the scheduled June [2004] presidential election." The vote was later postponed until October.
Whether it's the run-up to the Afghan elections, the run-up to the Iraqi vote on their constitution, or the run-up to our own mid-term elections, it's always about the politics and not about the results.

Watch as the 2006 mid-term elections approach, the White House will start announcing plans for withdrawal of American troops. Not because anything has changed on the ground, but because Republicans will need some political cover in order to keep their jobs.

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Morning Fun: Sunday Spin

It's pretty clear which of the network news shows we should be watching today. Meet the Press has the man of the hour: Representative John Murtha. It is also pretty clear that the White House is going to keep up its treason offensive as Donald Rumsfeld will be appearing on three of the four Sunday shows. I don't know if I can stomach that. Today it will be Murtha then onto football.

Meet the Press
Rep. John Murtha, D-PA
And a whole lot of waste of network airtime on the coming bird flu pandemic.

This Week
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
Plus Roundtable

Face the Nation
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
Sen. Richard Lugar, Chairman, Foreign Relations Committee
Sen. Christopher Dodd, Foreign Relations Committee

Fox News Sunday
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del
Plus Roundtable

Seriious Stuff, later.